I recently had the pleasure of talking with Georgia Ellis on her podcast, Ellis in Wunderland.

Georgia nicknamed me “The Keeper of Secrets” as we talked about my approach to the doctor-patient relationship. Also in the episode, we discussed neurobiology, leadership, making sense of the world through our own unique patterning, and how we can rewrite the stories that our meaning-making machine creates.

I really enjoyed our conversation and I hope you do too.

You can find the full episode here or wherever you get your podcasts.

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