Every once in a while, you get a chance to be interviewed by one of the greats, an outstretched hand who says, “Come into my arena and shine.”

Thank you, Srini Rao of the Unmistakable Creative Podcast for being that person. Thank you for having me in your lair.

I hope all of you, the listeners, will enjoy our conversation.

We talk childhood, college, learning vs. thinking, change, hope, and more.

I’d love to hear your thoughts after you listen.

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